How Cops Conduct Death Investigations
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  • ed
    ed

    If police enter a home for a welfare check under “exigent circumstances” and find a few plants of weed growing where weed is illegal, could the inhabitants face charges on the weed? What happens to the weed?

    • Gwen Crawford
      Gwen Crawford

      @JAMES PURKS If you're a paramedic, or an EMT... then the agency you work for, SHOULD have standard operating guidelines in place for operating at scenes that are quite possibly crime scenes. (Not all fire and EMS departments have these guidelines reduced to black and white, unfortunately... but it 'should' be addressed.) On my fire department... we keep the guidelines VERY SIMPLE... 1.) If police are already on scene, check in with the police officer that is 'in command' at that point. (This is where we 'have a brief discussion' to get briefed on 'why we've been called there', and how we can help.) 2.) Once we have the information, we'll enter the scene, following a single path in... and then back out... so that the police (AND WE) can document the following basic information. ---Which personnel entered ---What agency are they with? ---What time did they enter? ---What path did they follow, in and out of the scene? ---What evidence, by necessity, may they have disturbed during their authorized entry? 3.) Upon reaching the patient, we will conduct a normal rapid assessment, to determine patient viability, in accordance with our state's published guidelines. 4.) If the patient is ALIVE... the PRIMARY MISSION of ALL first response agenceis, is... THE PRESERVATION OF HUMAN LIFE... so at that point... we do what we must, for the sake of the patient... and if that means that some evidence gets spoliated during life saving efforts... SO BE IT... (Although we try NOT to disturb the scene MORE than is absolutely necessary.) 5.) If the patient is DEAD... then we go to our state protocols in pronouncement of death... 6.) When our business is concluded, we will depart the scene, using the same pathway out, that we took to get in, taking care not to disturb or contaminate evidence. 7.) We will check out of that immediate scene area, with the commanding police officer on scene (aka "The Incident Commander", and will remain at that officer's disposal, until dismissed. 8.) The commander of the EMS crew, will fill out an appropriate EMS report, and ensure that police have everything they need from us, before we depart from the scene. The bottom line... when a patient's life is on the line... and your state EMS guidelines and good sense, tells you that the patient has a chance of being resuscitated... you execute all of your patient care protocols as needed, and transport to higher care. All other concerns, EXCEPT your safety, become 'secondary concerns'. (Which means you don't ignore those secondary concerns... but you don't put them, before the life of your patient.) Things change a little, if EMS is on the scene FIRST... If you're on the scene first... and you DISCOVER what appears to be a crime scene... your crew's commander needs to have dispatch summon police. You will then execute your patient assessment, after approaching through a pathway that gets you to the patient, while disturbing evidence as little as possible... and if treatment is indicated, you provide it, and do whatever it takes to save the patient's life... since 'life safety' comes before 'investigation' on the priority list. If the patient is dead... you retrace your steps back out, again disturbing evidence as little as possible... and you SECURE THE SCENE for police... not allowing anyone in the area... and not allowing anyone to mess around in that scene area. You advise police on their arrival, why you're there, what you discovered on arrival, what you did, and what you've done up to the point of their arrival. THEN... proceed from there, accordingly. Your EMS trainers should cover this a little in training... and you should get continuing education to further your knowledge in this area over the course of your EMS career.

    • 101327
      101327

      @JAMES PURKS if the p/t is obviously deceased, only the senior medic would/should enter and check for signs of life. Names, times would be recorded and entered into the CAD and incident report. If there is even a remote possibility that the victim could be resuscitated, then that takes priority over everything else. Cut what you need to cut, move that you need to move...etc. Follow your policies regarding the application of medical aid to that patient, irrespective of the circumstances. You should probably not enter a known shooting scene until it is cleared by LEO.

    • Primthos
      Primthos

      You'd probably be dead so who cares

    • Zac The biker
      Zac The biker

      egutierrez they blow up the world

    • northCALIFA
      northCALIFA

      ANONYMOUS FARM attaboy’ ! I’m right there w ya . Guys making minions off our backs! Cheers my guy

  • Caleb Beck
    Caleb Beck

    401 nation

  • SamMurphyHSV
    SamMurphyHSV

    Great video 401! Very informative. I always wondered how the CID work these kinds of cases.

  • Gladiate Solid50
    Gladiate Solid50

    I've worked jobs where Tyvex is basic PPE. We called them anything from shoot-suits, to skin savers to get an idea of the work type...

  • McFlingleson
    McFlingleson

    I used to want to be a cop, and when I see videos like this, I think about how I really dodged a bullet by realizing I didn't have what it takes to do the job. Keep up the good work. I couldn't handle this kind of work, and I'm glad there are people in the world who can, because we all need this job to be done.

  • Tom Alexander
    Tom Alexander

    I did a case where a lawyer called for a welfare check on her client officer showed up smelt the smell... Decomp...

  • Tom Alexander
    Tom Alexander

    In the state of New Mexico we don't have elected coroners. We have The Office of the Medical Investigator (OMI). I work with the office as a Field Deputy Medical Investigator (FDMI) as well as being a firefighter/emt. We basically do what the coroner do as well as some investigater work (determine homicide, suicide, accident, etc.). We also determine the cause and manner of death. When I go on to a scene after I tie in with the LEO I make contact with family (if there is any on scene) let them know what I will be doing, what my central office in Alburquerque may want us to do as well. I also let the family know what services we provide and who to call for information such as death certificates, belongings on the deceased etc. Then I start with my photos. Normally will start with the street sign mile of where the scene is and work my way into the home or building all the way till I am where the deceased is and do my 360 photos. The more photos the better. I photo belongings that are on the body (jewlery, cash, and I have even had to document rocks, wrappers, and one time even mini voodoo dolls). After basically all my photos are done around the home and EVERYTHING is documented then I call the central OMI office in Alburquerque and talk with a lead investigator (sometimes I have to wait for one to call me back which can take hours and I have to stay with the body until then) I tell them what is going on and what I'm seeing and then they'll order either a full autopsy, an external autopsy(pull blood, urine, and intraocular fluid that is in the eyes.) which I will do at the funeral home. The third option is if it's determined its a natural death no foul play. Anytime its a homicide, suicide, or decomp then they will definetly go up for autopsy. After I tag and bag the deceased I call the funeral home and they will pick the body up. If they are going up for a full autopsy the funeral home will still pick up and they will store the deceased until the central offices transporter picks them up and transports them up to the central office where the autopsy lab is for the state. Then I go to my computer write my report send it off as well as my photos. Sometimes I will go up there to view the autopsy (cool thing is law enforcement isnt allowed in the lab but I am). If it's a homicide I don't try to locate a suspect or anything that the detectives job. I do interview neighbors, family, talk to anybody basically to help me determine the manner of death. As an FDMI I do have a lot more freedom on a scene for example I could go threw their cell phone without a warrant to maybe find next of kin or a suicide note. I've used drones to take and aerial photo of MVAs basically I'm allowed to get creative. I do have to testify in court if its a homicide as well. I enjoy what I enjoy what I do because I help brimg closure for the families. I work side by with law enforcement we help each other out a lot.

  • Jess Panda
    Jess Panda

    This video made me feel better that not all cops act rude when dealing with death.My dad died in oct 8, he had a heart attack we got to my house before the cops and ambulance and when we got there my mom did cpr and the cop basically told her she was wrong for trying to help my dad and the hospital charged a nice 2,000.But the cops on the scene were very rude and didn’t communicate anything with us until they took him to the hospital.I also warned them that we have dogs in our backyard and they are very protective of their home and their people(we have one in-particular that hates men except my dad) and they got right up on the fence gate even though I told them that he doesn’t like men and is very protective of me. And they proceeded to get pissed when the dogs started barking,growling and lunging at them even though I told them that they are protective.I proceeded to tell the officer as he was about to reach for the gun that if he even took his gun out of the holster that I would jump in front of my dog.I filmed the whole thing and he ask why I was filming I said if you go near my dog even after I warned you not to then shoot him and me then you’ll have a nice set of charges and a lawsuit.So thanks for making me feel better about cops and how they aren’t all assholes

  • wayne mg tregear 3rd
    wayne mg tregear 3rd

    I had this job once repoing industralia sewing machines 10 in all total the house we pull up to was built 1920 we were told that the owners' mother had died in some time ago the boss said the body has been removed & we could go in retrieve our goods when I walked through the front door you could still smell death in the air it was cold and dark very little light coming through the front curtain widows.on the floor was an outline on the carpeted floor where the body had lain plus a pool of blood & still remember this some 45 years later

  • wayne mg tregear 3rd
    wayne mg tregear 3rd

    mm that reminds me of our local police came out o check our neighbor old peg leg Pete who,s TV was blasting no stop for some time couldn,t get him to answer the knock on the front door they were informed he spends most of his time in the back off his house, couldn,t gain entry through the side gate so the LAC had to call the fire brigade to cut the lock & chain,upon getting into the back off the house they found old peg leg Pete dead with maggots crawling all over him. head die of an heart attack

  • David Gudzinas
    David Gudzinas

    Thank you for posting this video. I've been a funeral director for twenty years and as you may imagine, I've responded to hundreds of death calls. Though in that time, I've absorbed a bit of information regarding police procedures, I've never had a complete understanding of the process from the police side of a death event. Your video has helped to fill in some of the voids in my knowledge. Thank you.

  • Jane Doe
    Jane Doe

    Think 401 could do the wave with his eyebrows?

  • massieVtec
    massieVtec

    Officer, has he ever came on ? If so can you give us the link please 🙏🏻

  • frankly maria
    frankly maria

    What if it’s suicide by hanging or overdose? Jw

  • Frank Jones
    Frank Jones

    as someone who is going into forensics, i found dexter fairly helpful. I wouldn't say everyone should watch it before getting in to the field - bit as i am studying i keep coming across things i heard on dexter first.

  • James Herndon
    James Herndon

    As a 24 year LEO (Patrol Div. over 16yrs) I have literally worked 100's of death scenes. There is no dignity in death so you nailed it on the head. Compassion and Empathy are job number 1 in dealing with family and friends of the deceased. There is no room for joking around on a scene. Great video.

  • James Herndon
    James Herndon

    As a 24 year LEO (Patrol Div. over 16yrs) I have literally worked 100's of death scenes. There is no dignity in death so you nailed it on the head. Compassion and Empathy are job number 1 in dealing with family and friends of the deceased. There is no room for joking around on a scene. Great video.

  • Robert Kay
    Robert Kay

    Over 1/2 a million subscribers!!! Wow..! I remember when you first started. Good job.

  • Aw350m3 H3R0
    Aw350m3 H3R0

    You do some scary stuff for a not scary person thnx man

  • Addison Ricketts
    Addison Ricketts

    Officer401: "What made me say 'oh wow' and I actually told other people that night and they were like 'oh wow' was..." Me: Pshhhh... all this build up, I'm not finna say 'oh wow.' [Officer 401 comes with some serious left turns] Me: "...........Oh Wo.....Oh..... Oh, Wow!!!! Damn he never lies."

  • Zyhir Harris
    Zyhir Harris

    Is it just me or does he look like elon musk

  • Sara McGaha
    Sara McGaha

    Maybe these two thing are pre and post Mortem?

  • Sara McGaha
    Sara McGaha

    Is lividity the same?

  • Sara McGaha
    Sara McGaha

    I thought the bluish color was called cyanosis.

  • Derek Torres
    Derek Torres

    Thank you for showing that poor woman dignity and respect and for sharing her story.

  • Miloslav Minkov
    Miloslav Minkov

    another amazing video, a lot of useful information especially for someone that wants to be an investigator :)

  • Mill
    Mill

    Just me or is his shirt dirty lol

  • Andres Correa
    Andres Correa

    love your videos , wish you could see the situation in Puerto Rico is reallg bad , almost all murders dont get solved

  • brenn franklin
    brenn franklin

    This is very interesting... I’m a new EMT and also a 911 dispatcher for EMS/Fire, but not PD. I can usually tell over the phone by the way a caller describes a body what the outcome is... I understand the medical side of how it works, but not the PD side. I’m Texas, any death and literally ANY death is investigated by PD no matter what. I have always wondered how this process works. Thank you for informing me!

  • Mac Playz
    Mac Playz

    Does IA do that too?

  • Grandsome
    Grandsome

    So you got your own Dexter friend?! :D

  • tAmEz ZoDiAc
    tAmEz ZoDiAc

    Make one on autopsies

  • Daniel L. Fletcher
    Daniel L. Fletcher

    8:21 You mention the report. Everything about police work is a damn report.

  • Justin Gere
    Justin Gere

    Interesting

  • 101327
    101327

    Easy peasy....... Two or the short paragraphs, the last one ending with: " the scene was then turned over to the on-call detectives and coroner. I then returned to service.".

  • C.I.A
    C.I.A

    How long does a death investigation take officer 401???? DO you like your job??

  • awe Ruby
    awe Ruby

    one time I lost a welfare check too...missed out on a whole 160 dollars for the week ;-;

  • savage_snek_3175_official
    savage_snek_3175_official

    Hey what is a uniform unit?

  • Michael Chidester
    Michael Chidester

    Wow that's odd here EMS does all of this our selves welfair checks and determining if we call the corner law enforcement ect lol

  • Jeff Whiting
    Jeff Whiting

    Wanted to share my experiences with this, perhaps as an example. I'm sure every locality has slightly different procedures. i woke up one morning to find my sister sitting on the couch, slumped over, dead. She had talked to my brother on line several hours earlier. She had been dead, I thought, for several hours. She had a history of drug abuse and I figured that was the cause, although i had tried to be diligent in keeping an eye on her. So i called 911. The police arrived in minutes...there is a substation about half a mile away. First two officers showed up, then shortly after a sergeant and two more. When the squad showed up, two officers left, but not before all of them managed to quickly search my tiny apartment. I had nothing to hide, and I understand why, but still... I had told the officers what I knew, talked to the paramedics, answered some questions about the prescriptions she was taking...she had several... and then everyone ended up leaving except one officer I hadn't seen before, but I can't recall if she was one of the originals or if she came later. I suppose everyone left at that point, except her, because the decision had been made that this was probably an accidental overdose. The last officer stayed there until the transportation came for the body...about an hour and a half. I got the impression that she had been trained for this situation. She basically left me alone until I started talking to her, and she did her best to keep me talking about light things. Eventually the transport came ,and she left when they did, gave me a paper with some numbers for grief hot lines, and that was it. Everyone was professional, but most of them avoided talking to me, except for a couple explicit questions. The sergeant offered condolences, as did the specialist who had stayed with the body.

  • Blake McCoy
    Blake McCoy

    This reminds me of when my friend Alexa passed away 3 months ago, and at only 15. 😢😢

  • BolxTac
    BolxTac

    Crazy how people think hes a real member of any law enforcement

  • CrightNawler
    CrightNawler

    Officer 401. I do film art work on my channel if you think it may help at stressful times. Some are bizarre, alot of cool editing. Just an art project I brought to life called crightnawler. If you happen to find any of them useful I am glad to help ease your mind. Shot them all on an Android and edited with KdenLive on windows. Enjoy Detective hope it helps 🤜🤛

  • William Bullard
    William Bullard

    I used to work for a funeral home I actually miss it I’ve seen a lot of crazy things

  • Daniel Lovitt
    Daniel Lovitt

    Thanks for the video man! Unfortunately found my mom in December 2017. Didn’t really understand why I was asked the same questions multiple times for what seemed like several hours. It was definitely a rough, I was pretty over whelmed in the circumstances but it’s nice to see why these things are done the way they are. Appreciate the videos!

  • Reverend
    Reverend

    Zeus: "Well, what's he gonna tell you, 'I'm dead?'" John McClane: "Well, I ain't gonna know 'til I ask him, am I?"

    • Dana Freeman
      Dana Freeman

      Youre the best🙏💪👊

  • CasualSasquatch
    CasualSasquatch

    As a civilian, these videos are incredibly inciteful and give me a pretty fair look into what goes on in the life of a cop.

  • Jeannie W
    Jeannie W

    This is one of your best! Thanks so much for taking the time to share this information with us. I found it very interesting. I've learned so much from you already and looking forward to more.

  • Mr. Hemlig
    Mr. Hemlig

    I've heard that the smell of death is.. my friend used to be a carpenter and they had to redo the floors in a apartment were a person had been laying dead for months.

  • spaceAlien Rissley
    spaceAlien Rissley

    Lmao some crack heads lost their welfare check

  • Lilly G
    Lilly G

    I've been wanting to start a Police themed comic series for a while this is very helpful.

  • Big Phaith
    Big Phaith

    401: "what do you think would be important to know about death investigation" Me: *shouts* "DON'T MOVE THE FUCKING BODY" 401: " if you said death you're probably right" Me: "so you can move the body's?"

  • Dragonfly
    Dragonfly

    Doing nothing wrong.

  • Ye boi woof
    Ye boi woof

    there not dead unless there dead and warm

  • dusneed
    dusneed

    Catharsis *

  • shamusfarmer
    shamusfarmer

    Autopsy video, pleeeease!

  • kelly keldsen
    kelly keldsen

    Hey officer 401love the vids What about a liver probe doesn’t the M E still do that to check T O D

  • Pat Scott
    Pat Scott

    Haha! Welfare Check!! My tummy hurts thanks!!

  • death stroke_02
    death stroke_02

    So if u see the purpleish on said arm you'll know that they died a few hours ago?

  • Geof_McNiel
    Geof_McNiel

    I was my dad's Next of Kin. I saw my dad dead in my apartment room, he died from alcoholism (his liver went). It happened 6 months ago, I can still see the image in my mind of what I saw...still haunts me.

    • Tj Jizzle
      Tj Jizzle

      My condolences 😞

  • N Ryan
    N Ryan

    Blame the closest male

  • Seferion1 Seferion1
    Seferion1 Seferion1

    I have a question what happened to the irate person that you had to restrain when You notify them of the death of their loved one? Do you usually let some of it slide as emotions get high with these or what do You do?

  • Elizabeth Becker
    Elizabeth Becker

    Death is hard. I remember when my SO mother passed away. The neighbors had called for a "welfare check" as the lights were left on and no movement for several days. The officers went to the back door to knock but they could see the body in the kitchen. I'm actually happy that they had my SO and myself drive out and the cops met us at the end of the driveway and just the looks on their faces. No one wanted to tell my SO. He cried and they were happy I was there bc when someone hears that they can't function. The police suggested I drive and then my SO with me driving went with the constable to go tell his brother that their mother was gone. My particular one was not suspicious and she passed of older age and a heart issue but I really wish that someone would have given me a number to pay for the cleaning of the house. Ummm body smells and bodies that have been there for a bit are not good and no amount of gas masks or peppermint oil under my nose could help with cleaning that house. It was horrible. We painted and tore floors out and then we lined the whole house with charcoal. The fridge is horrible. Imagine if no one had opened or cared for a fridge in weeks. Just to be clear you throw the fridge away. I hunt and I farm so I know entrails, butchering, livestock smells and we toss lost livestock out for the coyotes in the field but in a house where it's kept warm and things get ummm gooey and it's an odor you will never ever forget once you've smelled it. Another one I helped at all was a body recovery and I could smell it. The body was in a body of water but the smell permeated at least 150ft above the water. You could smell there was a body in there. It's a smell you never ever forget and once you know the smell of death you recognize it far far away. I personally think it's part of human nature and I have no idea how some coroners can do their job. I mean they sometimes get people soup or bodies bloat. One coroner I knew kinda hit on a girl when doing his job bc he had to go down many flights of stairs and this was an apartment building. Yeah, he really didn't remember he was moving a body and hit on a pretty girl and she just ran away man. He looks down and kinda smacks himself like , oh yeah, everyone finds this gross and terrible but for him it was another day on the job.

  • Ty Burda
    Ty Burda

    This didn't change my mind about joining law enforcement

  • laperuta12
    laperuta12

    Have u meet any one that has watched ur video

  • Ahmed Maalej
    Ahmed Maalej

    What is next of kin

  • Alana Pennell
    Alana Pennell

    So like a csi, ncis kinda thing

  • B.T.B 5.0
    B.T.B 5.0

    binge watching 401

  • xrangerx777x
    xrangerx777x

    Did you do the video on the autopsy??

  • NoChance 0401
    NoChance 0401

    Here at my local state police, the coroner would not come out to process the dead body. Rather the whole scene gets processed by the “van”( the patrol unit) unless the death was unexpected and suspicious where the CIU will be requested by the van to come out and make further judgements. Suicide is not considered suspicious although it is unexpected so usually with suicide deaths once the coroner receives the death notification report, he/she will send the informant(van members who attended the scene) a request for either a limited inquest brief or a full inquest brief. The only times we don’t do an inquest brief is when the death was caused by known medical issue or died of natural causes(age, natural disasters etc).

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