The Buick Grand National Is the Ultimate 1980s Muscle Car
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The Buick Grand National is the ultimate 1980s muscle car. Today I'm reviewing the Grand National to show you why the Buick Grand National is special -- and I'm driving the Grand National, and I'm taking you on a tour of the Grand National's quirks and features.
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  • Allison S
    Allison S

    I remember when the Grand National came out and unless you were into cars, there wasn't much hype or talk about them.There were only about 30,000 sold between 1982 and 1987. The GNX is even rarer with only 547 models produced, all in 1987. They would be the real collectibles.

  • The Frog
    The Frog

    This car was in one of my favorite TV show : automotiveviews.com/2011/09/27/cars-tv-life/

  • drgonzo
    drgonzo

    As somebody who grew up on the the Illinois/Iowa border in the 90's...it was cool to see the radio station thing in the manual....

  • Ralphie Leonard
    Ralphie Leonard

    This car was featured in Out For Justice with Steven Seagal

  • Whacc
    Whacc

    that car can go way too fast in need for speed payback lmao

  • G L
    G L

    Original A.C. Delco stereo deck. Pretty cool to see one of these .

  • Dylan petrovic
    Dylan petrovic

    My car has those GM belt buckles. I have a 1995 Oldsmobile cutlass. Also Doug the type of guy to want cold air blowing on his groin

  • Chirag NAAGAR
    Chirag NAAGAR

    Remember gta

  • Crypto King
    Crypto King

    I find it hilarious that my ford thunderbird of that era had that exact same dome light. That doesn't happen nowadays a ford and chevy (er I mean buick) with the same part

  • It's Huge
    It's Huge

    I was in a stolen one long time ago, it was fast!

  • Random projects USA
    Random projects USA

    If they made a car that could beat a Lamborghini today it would break before it left the factory in China.

  • ky malone
    ky malone

    I've had three of these beauties the fastest one I had was a 1987 Regal T type with 400 horsepower to the wheels I put a te44 turbo on it and a front mount intercooler with a bunch of other upgrades the only problem I had with it is my mass flow air sensor used to go out like once every two months lol on the streets these things were Untouchable in the early 2000s the Camaro SS was the only car that gave me problems and the Trans Am WS6 when they where new! Of course two out of three of them got stolen but I'll get another one one day

  • W.M. Aslam - Author
    W.M. Aslam - Author

    It looks like it just left the showroom, and it sounds awesome!

  • DAFATBOY2016
    DAFATBOY2016

    Yeah I raced my 2003 Mercury Marauder against a Grand National and it ate my ass up 😎👍🏾

    • Random projects USA
      Random projects USA

      Spinning Back-Kick Nothing against it, just saying it’s not a particularly fast car

    • Spinning Back-Kick
      Spinning Back-Kick

      @Random projects USA hi Marauder may become a collectible.

    • Random projects USA
      Random projects USA

      DAFATBOY2016 you raced your crown Victoria against a muscle car

  • jd 8430
    jd 8430

    I wish i had it

  • Clark Griswold
    Clark Griswold

    Orange spark plug wires are just awful on this car, keep it original!

  • Georgios N. Telas
    Georgios N. Telas

    Typical us car. Only straight course. In turns...end of story. Get beat by a skateboard. Also an ugly one.

  • Walter White
    Walter White

    Doug the type of guy to say thanks after sex.

  • Jungle_CS
    Jungle_CS

    We need a 81 turbo trans am or a gta trans am review

    • Brandon Kivari
      Brandon Kivari

      Jungle_CS the Pontiac 305s we’re complete junk and the turbo trans am had a National motor in 87

  • marks man
    marks man

    I remember when the grand national first came out. It has been my chaser car ever since. Damn I love that car.

  • Ryan Watt
    Ryan Watt

    Chick Hicks

  • Dashoo2
    Dashoo2

    VIDEO KILLS THE RADIO STAR

  • Maj Wor
    Maj Wor

    This guy is not very knowledgeable about cars period.

    • Drew Jackson
      Drew Jackson

      Maj Wor how so?

  • Motorheadmike
    Motorheadmike

    89 turbo trans am was faster than Buick grand national. It was same motor but Pontiac got more out of it.

  • Jerome Brotton
    Jerome Brotton

    Doug do your research when describing the pre set buttons on the radio. If you depress both buttons at the same time you have an extra radio station pre set. You can do that with buttons one and two, two and three, and three and four. So rather than like you stated four radio pre sets you actually have seven. All these GM radios will function like that.

  • Todd bob
    Todd bob

    Butt ugly Buick Regal..... grandmas car

    • Norman Guzman
      Norman Guzman

      A bad ass grandma.Lol

  • stevenhs8821
    stevenhs8821

    Were they all black? Definitely the most common color. OK. Jumped the gun. "Body by Fisher." Fisher was a division of GM. Faster than the Corvette of the same era. How many cars peg the speedometer? And so much?

  • Proxima Top
    Proxima Top

    Love that 80's and 90's interior, very similar to my 1994 XJ!

  • David Weis
    David Weis

    Yes, my 87 Mustang GT speedometer only went to 85 mph. Buried the needle many times! I believe they lifted that federal law started in 88.

  • stillphil
    stillphil

    0:21 hilarious truth

  • Brian Ashe
    Brian Ashe

    Doug, Doug, Doug... I love your videos, but PLEASE do just an ounce of research to keep everyone from going nuts. It may surprise you to learn this, but TR-my's parent company, "Google", makes a thing called a "search engine" that is quite handy in situations like this. Here's how it works: if you don't know something, you can type the name of the thing into a little box and then a minute later you'll know it. Kind of like how Trinity learned how to fly a helicopter in The Matrix, but you need to read a little for it to work. So anyway, EVERY car guy over a certain age knows what "Body by Fisher" is. And so does "Google", by way of "Wikipedia", a popular online reference site: "Fisher Body was an automobile coachbuilder founded by the Fisher brothers in 1908 in Detroit, Michigan. It had been a division of General Motors for many years... The name and its iconic "Body by Fisher" logo were well known to the public [*ahem*], as General Motors vehicles displayed a "Body by Fisher" emblem on their door sill plates until the mid-1990s." Seriously. 30 seconds on your phone will save you from countless people complaining.

  • HORIA KARIM
    HORIA KARIM

    Doug is the type of guy to irritate me so bad with his misinformation that I have to use my wife's TR-my account to make the following comment: 6.7 seconds? Where is this number from? 2/10 in acceleration? You call the GMC Typhoon fast, but this is slow? The Buick GN's main strength was its acceleration. Here are facts: -On April 1986, Car and Driver clocked the 1986 Buick Grand National at 4.9 seconds from 0-60mph. The 1/4 mile was tested at 13.9 seconds at 98mph. It was a cool spring, so the car performed exceptionally well. -On June 1987, Road and Track stated the following "Less than 6.0 seconds after you mashed the throttle, you will be going 60mph. If you're on a drag strip and keep your foot down, come 14.0 sec you'll have covered the quarter mile and be traveling 105mph.... And that was a gentle run." Note the words "gentle run." This test was on a hot summer day. -The GNX had mild modifications by ASC McLaren. A new turbo with ceramic compressor wheel, mildly ported heads, an upgraded intercooler, updated ROM chip, and revised suspension. Boost was only 1PSI higher in first and second gear. So with these mild modifications, a GN goes from 6.7 seconds to world supercar beater in 0-60? -The 1989 Turbo Trans Am was one of the fastest factory Trans Ams ever. This was a mildly modified GN engine. On June 1989, Car and Driver clocked the 1989 Turbo Trans Am at 4.6 seconds from 0-60mph. Not until a decade later, the factory LS1 Trans Ams finally got to that level of performance. -The TH200-4R was an exceptional automatic transmission; boost was never lost. If you tested the this example of the GN yourself, then two things are happening: 1. You clearly do not know how to launch the car. Brake boost to 1600rpm and release. 2. The car is in dire need of new valve springs in the heads, so the boosted air actually enters the intake valve of each cylinder. This is a commonly neglected maintenance issue. Now I am off to being an old guy without a TR-my account.

    • Patrick Hartge
      Patrick Hartge

      All I can do because hes completely right. Doug has really biased reviews

    • Nicholas Seamans
      Nicholas Seamans

      This is like the old version of my console is better than yours

  • egmccann
    egmccann

    No headrest? ... Did you pull up on those things behind your neck that you noted the logo stitched on? They tended to extend on most cars like that.

  • Cloud Of Time
    Cloud Of Time

    You know what else would save money? Don't put any badge on the seat belts.

  • Jorge Suarez
    Jorge Suarez

    this guy needs to review old cars like they need to be he keeps comparing it to new age bullshit

  • lucas _
    lucas _

    This was the best fast and furious car ever though..

  • Eric Braun
    Eric Braun

    0-60 is actually 4.9 sec. It is quick. If you took off from a stop throttle braking first, you'd feel that... spinning its tires into 2nd gear. The best part of these is you could get them to 750hp with bolt-ons... and it was reliable. Ask me how I know. I had 4 of these Turbo Buicks and the last one got into the mid 10's @ 135 on street tires. And the engine was just as quiet. God's hand shoving you in the back.

  • Rudeboy Em
    Rudeboy Em

    Awesome awesome awesome 👏🏾!!!!!!! Good job Doug !!!!!!

  • nick Canova
    nick Canova

    how about stop worrying about over pronouncing words and go through a few years at full throttle before saying how it performs , just saying , IV seen it with quite a few and then some that suck are said to be fast ? Stop being scared big guy .

  • Patrick Hartge
    Patrick Hartge

    It's always surprising how many people don't know the reason behind the 85 MPH speedo. That was a federal law at the time. Also you can tell Doug doesnt drive old cars often because the position of the manual mirrors is extremely typical. Its uncommon for any car with manual mirrors of that era to have them In a different spot. Even my 89 Maserati had them that way.

    • Patrick Hartge
      Patrick Hartge

      @Captain Obvious Yah, obviously

    • Captain Obvious
      Captain Obvious

      It was so you couldn’t travel in time.

  • Jack Larson
    Jack Larson

    you can have it in any color you like as long as it's black oh wait.... that was Ford...........

  • jim poeschmann
    jim poeschmann

    so ugly

  • NeInE 670
    NeInE 670

    the grand national is so underrated ;-;

  • MaximRecoil
    MaximRecoil

    At 14:53 on the left-hand side of the screen, it shows 95.7 WWMJ (Maine), which was my favorite radio station when I was a kid. I started listening to it in 1987 when I was 12, and when the Grand National in this video was brand new. It was an "oldies" station ('50s and '60 rock and roll) with an awesome DJ by the name of "Mighty" John Marshall. He brought his own stack of records to work with him each night, so the song selections during his shift were far wider than when he wasn't working. I used to listen every night when he was working, with a blank tape in my boombox ready to record songs I liked. Around the same time, I started hanging out with Tom, who was in my 6th grade class. He was into cars and thought the Grand National was awesome. There was one that drove around town and whenever we saw it he made a big fuss over it. I didn't see the appeal. It had a typical boxy '80s family car body style. I understood that it was fast, but it was still boring looking. Tom and I agreed on most things, i.e., we both liked '60s and early '70s muscle cars and pony cars, plus Corvettes and exotic sports cars from companies such as Ferrari, Lamborghini, and Porsche, but he was never able to convince me that the Grand National was cool. Any car can be made to go fast, but it takes exceptional talent to design a good-looking body style, and nothing GM made in the late '80s looked good (the C4 Corvette was their best looking car, but it was a downgrade from the C2 and C3; the third-generation Camaros and Firebirds looked okay, but they were downgrades from first- and second-generation). Nothing Ford or Chrysler made in the late '80s looked good either. For that matter, no car manufacturer on Earth has designed a really good-looking car since the 1970s.

  • blaakrose
    blaakrose

    GM engineers from the 80's probably would have gotten aneurysms if there was a Doug DeMuro reviewing this Grand National pointing out all the quifks of this car.

  • CC Ryder
    CC Ryder

    You guys dont know Jack, LOl you watch fast and furious or listen to your uncles bulshit stories, the Gran national was quick but the 89 trans am turbo was quicker, and top speed all the trans ams with 305 tpi or 350s were faster as far as hitting top end , the grand national was good for maybe 115, it just got theyre quicker then most but a vette was good for 145 the same for the iroc z and the trans ams, you little school kids need schooled on the facts, and then probably none of you ever heard of the firehawk firebird, LOl 375 factory horsepower with a race suspension, LOl, when you kiddies get educated on the facts talk to Me.

  • CC Ryder
    CC Ryder

    It really isnt, the 89 turbo trans am was faster and it handled, granted it was the same motor as the gran national and a low production car, never the less it was faster.

    • Eric Braun
      Eric Braun

      Different heads to make it fit between the TA's front fender wells. They gave it a few hp more... like 250 or something.

  • Dilanka Saluwadana
    Dilanka Saluwadana

    Do venome GT please

  • Wolfguard 1
    Wolfguard 1

    Have you tested a 1995 Thunderbird supercoupe yet?

    • Trevor B
      Trevor B

      Love those cars

  • No Names
    No Names

    Doug, 'Litre' is also the Canadian spelling which is where these cars were built. They were built in Oshawa, Ontario Canada

  • VideoAmericanStyle
    VideoAmericanStyle

    Undeniably fast but hideous, capturing nearly everything wrong with 1980s American vehicle design.

    • MaximRecoil
      MaximRecoil

      @You Can't Unhear This The BMW E28 was okay looking and so was the Mercedes W126, though it was introduced in '79 so it doesn't count as being designed in the '80s or later. The E29 was almost exactly the same body style as the E12, introduced in 1972, so it doesn't really count either. For that matter, the Mercedes W126 was almost the same body style as the W116, which was also introduced in 1972, which even further removes it from the 1980s. Second-generation Mazda RX-7s were okay looking but looked like a cheap knockoff of a Porsche 924 (or 928, 944, or 968), which was a mid-1970s body style. Third-generation RX-7s (introduced in 1992) were ugly as homemade shoes. They had that horrible melted look which was typical of 1990s body styles, and which was even worse than the boxy '80s body styles. The original Lexus (LS400) was a boring design, and not long after it was introduced, the Camry was restyled to look very similar to it. Me saying that _every_ body style designed in the '80s or later was ugly, was a bit of hyperbole. There were a lot of _okay_ looking body styles that were designed in the '80s, but as you get into the 1990s, it's harder for me to find ones that were even okay looking, and the 2000s and 2010s model years were even worse. I expect the 2020s to continue the downward spiral.

    • You Can't Unhear This
      You Can't Unhear This

      MaximRecoil I’d argue that the Europeans were on top of their game in the 80s and 90s (BMW e28, Mercedes W126, etc), and the Japanese in the early 90s (Lexus LS, Mazda RX7, etc). But the US? Anything after the fuel crisis was just pathetic.

    • MaximRecoil
      MaximRecoil

      _Every_ car designed in the '80s or later is ugly. That doesn't include cars whose body styles were still being manufactured in the '80s but were designed earlier, such as the Ferrari 308 (introduced in 1975), Porsche 911 (introduced in 1963), etc.

  • omer salman
    omer salman

    The Front is 15 feet and the back is 15 feet...

  • Abbi Ravindhran
    Abbi Ravindhran

    1980 Buick Grand National has power seats but 2015 Mini Cooper Countryman does not. LMAO

  • Imagineth
    Imagineth

    Please do a 1987-88 Monte Carlo SS.

  • Marney Olson
    Marney Olson

    And then the 90’s came and made Buick an old man car.

  • watman
    watman

    That's lieutenant right and lieutenant left for you.

  • spparodi
    spparodi

    Someone...ANYONE....at 18:52, screen shot an image of the engine. Please tell me, on the alternator, the hook set up that’s going on. What in the world is that for? Also zoom in on your screen shot, below that hook, is that a ratchet tie down connected to it?!? I know I know sounds crazy or ignorant of me not knowing more of the engines anatomy in this car......unless a motor mount was going and he used it as a temp fix for the video???🤔

  • Jef Rey
    Jef Rey

    GNX is my favorite car of all time. Used to be porche's all the time with it.

  • iluvGlee98
    iluvGlee98

    Potresti cercare un buon vecchio Oldsmobile Cutlass Ciera con cui realizzare un video? Mia nonna ne aveva posseduta una prima che io nascessi e mi piacerebbe genuinamente sentir la tua opinione. Could you look for a good old Oldsmobile Cutlass Ciera with which to make a video? My grandmother had owned one before I was born and would genuinely love to hear your opinion.

  • Chuyo
    Chuyo

    You didn’t realized it was fast until it was beating you.... haha good one

  • Mitchell Pritsker
    Mitchell Pritsker

    You should do more cars Doug quirks and features of any car that you can review.

  • kim Dierichsen
    kim Dierichsen

    Damn its ugly. and the orange peel paint job is very fitting.

  • Aou Celloutus
    Aou Celloutus

    85mph??? that's a shame.

  • Yul Strokheet Al-Wauch
    Yul Strokheet Al-Wauch

    7 out of 10 cool factor? >:(

  • Darnell Hendeason
    Darnell Hendeason

    Should have had a much higher score, at least 30.

  • Quintin Wright
    Quintin Wright

    Did he just say a car with a v6 was a muscle car......

  • William R.
    William R.

    Body by Fisher price 😂😂😂😂

  • William R.
    William R.

    Review that shit MANNNN 🤘🤘🤘🤘

  • Jason Colby
    Jason Colby

    "Quirkfest" 🤯........👍🏻

  • wolftmfg
    wolftmfg

    Imagine a square steering wheel 🤣

  • Смирнов Егор
    Смирнов Егор

    Hello! I am a Russian guy. Review the legend of the Japanese production TOYOTA MARK 2 jzx90 1jz-gte or Grand G jzx91

  • Douglas Buck
    Douglas Buck

    Does it come with Apple Carplay?

  • mdmbkr
    mdmbkr

    For being a “car guy” you’re super late to this car. Your “Dougscore” completely missed the mark too. The “cool factor” on the GN is astronomical, and when it comes to acceleration ... watch your own video. PS, what about the Monte Carlo SS?

  • mdmbkr
    mdmbkr

    On September 1, 1979 in a regulation that also regulated speedometer and odometer accuracy, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) required speedometers to have special emphasis on the number 55 and a maximum speed of 85mph (140km/h).

  • Frankie Deuce
    Frankie Deuce

    In the 70's and '80s, the government federally mandated 85 mile per hour speedometers. You literally could not get one that read beyond 85mph. And if it did have hash marks beyond 85, there were no numbers.

  • Fentanyl funk
    Fentanyl funk

    cool factor should be 10/10

  • War N Peace
    War N Peace

    You forgot to mention the Buick regal T type

  • soloist78
    soloist78

    doug is the kind of guy that grabs a mirror like its a titty. @ 5:22

  • brad h
    brad h

    Back when buttons were metal.

  • Carson Lowe
    Carson Lowe

    I purchased my first Regal in 1980. It had a V8. In '85, I purchased a 3.8 liter turbo. Non inter-cooled, it was replaced three times. Of course you, Doug, were still enjoying crayons. Your vids are nothing more than redundant for those of us born in the early '50's.

  • Traveler 1980
    Traveler 1980

    Does anybody else remember what it was like trying to put those GM seat belts on after the car had been sitting in the summer heat for a few hours?

  • cyfrezzel gamer
    cyfrezzel gamer

    a ballas car in GTA SA

  • Martin Angelov
    Martin Angelov

    pure love

  • Max the Madvertiser
    Max the Madvertiser

    Acceleration is a 2? Doug, did you watch your vid before scoring it?

    • Paul Soto
      Paul Soto

      Max the Madvertiser , these cars even to today’s standards are fast. Blessed to have one sitting in the Garage

    • Paul Soto
      Paul Soto

      Nathan Bower I’d still take the Grand National over any Viper or Ford GT

    • Chase Sant
      Chase Sant

      You have to think about the 4 speed transmission too. If it had more gears then it would probably be better

    • Nathan Bower
      Nathan Bower

      @Max the Madvertiser so have I. The standard grand national does 0-60 in around 5 seconds. His current grade scale has multiple super cars/sports cars. 5 seconds is family sedan territory compared to today's cars. They were incredible cars. They still are! But on a scale where a Viper or GT is getting a 8-9 on the acceleration scale, I'd say a 2 is fair for a buick GN

    • Max the Madvertiser
      Max the Madvertiser

      @Nathan Bower I've been in one. It had great acceleration. Even the Regal and Monte Carlo had great acceleration.

  • Rock and Rye
    Rock and Rye

    Radial T/A? Could do alot better than those.... Unless of course owner is planning on driving it in the snow.

  • P W
    P W

    "The Buick Grand National was faster than a Countach" Acceleration - Countach 6 out of 10 Grand National 2 out of 10 Seems legit

    • P W
      P W

      @Traveler 1980 Grand National 0-60 5.4 secs Countach 5.8 Grand national also wins a 1/4 mile race. What metrics would you use to compare acceleration? Grand national is a faster car in every metric except for maybe top speed since those old boats were governed at around 126 so you dont die. Regal suspension and frame were never meant to do more than 100.

    • Traveler 1980
      Traveler 1980

      Patrick W acceleration does not equal speed

  • Raymond Finkle
    Raymond Finkle

    i bet dougs tongue is three times the size of a normal human ...

  • thackertm
    thackertm

    It was the fastest stock 1/4 mile car (American of the 80's). Faster than the Vett, in a straight line.

    • CC Ryder
      CC Ryder

      No it wasnt damn it, LOl the 89 trans am turbo was faster, you guys sure dont know your cars, you know the same trans am sam Kinison was killed,.And it wasnt faster then a vette down the highway once the vette caught it it was game over, top speed on those was arouind 115, a Iroc z would beat it for top speed.

  • Daniel Laurencin
    Daniel Laurencin

    Dug that looking like a car in GTA San andreas its the car the bollers have in GTA

  • Richard's World Traveler
    Richard's World Traveler

    For several years, I think in the 80's the car that was considered the best in the car audio world was a Buick Grand National.

  • OnTheRocks
    OnTheRocks

    There was a federal rule in the 80's that cars could only have speedometers that went to 85mph. It, and the orange highlighted 55mph (national speed limit at the time) were devised as a fuel saving measure. The thinking being that people would drive slower if the speedometer only went to 85...??? Obviously this didn't work at all and was abandoned.

    • Paul Johnson
      Paul Johnson

      It worked more than people are willing to admit these days, though. Plus the overall downward pressure on speed from the national speed limit also helped (particularly on freeways) with dynamic loading of road surfaces and bridges, which helped stretch their lifespans a bit.

  • seasideWORKSHY
    seasideWORKSHY

    Surely it deserved more than a 2 out of 10 for Acceleration?

    • Patrick Hartge
      Patrick Hartge

      @Matt Pritchard except he rated the typhoon higher even though its slower lol

    • Captain Obvious
      Captain Obvious

      Doug isn’t a car genius people.

    • Robert Pajkovski
      Robert Pajkovski

      Matt Pritchard so what’s a car that does 0-60 in 8 seconds?! Just goes to show that the rating is “developed” by a moron.

    • Matt Pritchard
      Matt Pritchard

      The acceleration score is a fixed scale for 0-60 MPH times for all years, which favors today's 500+HP cars with AWD and launch control. Even the Ferraris and Lambos of the 70's and 80s get low scores. In the 80s it was a BIG deal to hit 6.0 seconds for a car's 0-60 time. Today we got a bunch that hit 60 in under 3 seconds. The Doug Score for Acceleration: Under 3.0 sec = 10 3.0 - 3.5 sec = 9 3.5 - 4.0 sec = 8 4.0 - 4.5 sec = 7 4.5 - 5.0 sec = 6 5.0 - 5.5 sec = 5 5.5 - 6.0 sec = 4 6.0 - 6.5 sec = 3 6.5 - 7.0 sec = 2 ( the GN was 6.7 ) Over 7.0 sec = 1

    • Robert Pajkovski
      Robert Pajkovski

      Doug DeMoron

  • Jean Fresco
    Jean Fresco

    No one wants to see Muscle Car reviews. Posts a Grand National that has more views than a Lamborghini Murcielago Roadster, McLaren 720S Spyder, Koenigsegg CCX, Ferrari 488 Pista, Aston Martin DS Superleggara and many more (ties a lot of other exotic videos that have been up longer as well). But hey, no one wants to see Muscle Car videos. You’re underestimating your audience Doug, just like you’re overestimating them wanting to shell out the bucks for a signed photo.

  • Michael C. Gonsalves
    Michael C. Gonsalves

    Acceleration 2 out of 10 @ 0 - 60 in 6 seconds in 1987 and even in today's times ? Utterly insulting !

    • Trevor B
      Trevor B

      This guys an idiot thou

    • HORIA KARIM
      HORIA KARIM

      @Nathan McDonald It was fast. I do not know where Doug is getting his numbers from. Even Road and Track stated that it did 0-60 in less than 6 seconds with a soft launch (June 1987 issue). Car and Driver tested it at 4.9 seconds in April of 1986. The poorest 0-60 test was Motor Trend in August 1987. It was a hot August day and the GN still did 0-60 in 6.1 seconds. These cars were not good handlers and had poor braking (rear drums), but acceleration was its forte. Doug is misinformed to say the least.

    • HORIA KARIM
      HORIA KARIM

      Doug is misinformed. Doug may look and act like he is 40-something, but he is only 30-years old if I am not mistaken. On the April 1986 issue of Car and Drive, the 1986 Buick Grand National was clocked in at 4.9 seconds 0-60mph. A variation of the same exact motor was used in the 1989 Turbo Trans Am. That car was clocked in at 4.6 seconds 0-60mph on the June 1989 issue of Car and Driver. The GNX was not a high performance version of the Grand National. It was more of the ultimate sign off to the Grand National. It only had a modified turbo with a ceramic compressor wheel, upgraded intercooler with higher fin pitch, ported heads, reprogrammed ROM chip, and a modified suspension. You cannot go from 0-60 in 6.7 seconds to a Lamborghini killer with those mild performance modifications. I had to use my wife's TR-my account because I do not have one. It takes a lot to "irk" me and Doug did it with his 2/10 in acceleration. I had to correct his misinformation.

    • Eric Braun
      Eric Braun

      0-60 was actually a verified and repeatable 4.9 sec. It was quick!

    • Nathan McDonald
      Nathan McDonald

      By todays standards 6 sec 0-60 is pretty standard, most fullsize pickups will do it faster now. I do agree that in 1987 though that was super impressive.

  • The Dopamine
    The Dopamine

    Dodge had the diplomat and Gm had the Gnx what did ford have? Thunderbird?

  • cannabinized
    cannabinized

    Cars like these remind me of Fargo

  • Andre Mallet
    Andre Mallet

    ..critiques the th2004r for being lackluster...puts his foot into it and promptly snaps his neck...lol

  • Mark S
    Mark S

    The ultimate muscle car is a damn 1994 Toyota Supra bruh.... Japanesemsucle gaaaang

    • Samsir Alam
      Samsir Alam

      Thats just a city car if it wasnt modified.

  • DriveCFL
    DriveCFL

    Who needs ventilated seats when you have a front blowing crotch cooler.

  • Andrew Donohue
    Andrew Donohue

    now we are talking

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