The Death of Classic Anime
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Today I extend my thoughts on a comment I made previously in my "Best of Anime 2018" video about the lack of modern classic Anime, since non of you could agree on it in the comments section.

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  • Angela Mapule
    Angela Mapule

    I think morden anime is not bad at all its actually cool its only wht you decide to watch

  • Kyreem
    Kyreem

    I think the idea of modern anime being a copy of a copy of a copy explains it really well. I feel like more anime lack human elements and just feel like they take ideas from other material. It is like they don't use real world experiences and just make stuff from a very limited world view. There definitely is more anime adapted from other source material instead of being anime only. It isn't good or bad, but I do feel like pacing really falls short in a lot of these.

  • Parsa Rathernotsay
    Parsa Rathernotsay

    Imagine looking at Mob Psycho 100 II and being like nah that’s not a modern classic

  • Irina
    Irina

    Attack on Titan is sure going to be!

  • OBL LYM
    OBL LYM

    AoT, FMAB

  • UltimateSaft
    UltimateSaft

    That sponsor aged horribly

  • transient
    transient

    So basically sword art online ruined everything

  • attackfighter
    attackfighter

    I'd say that Vinland Saga and the ongoing JoJo series deserve to be regarded as classics. My view is that there aren't many classics these days because there isn't much quality. Market forces select for quantity above quality these days due to cost-saving but creatively limiting 3D animation technologies. Although to be fair, there's also a slow down in 'classics' in other mediums like film and literature, so perhaps there's some broader force at play.

    • April
      April

      jojo is utterly terrible and nobody with a brain rates it at all above average, let alone in a discussion where we are talking about classic material.

  • Emos Qwe
    Emos Qwe

    meanwhile me watching allison and lillia ;D

  • Andrea es trapito
    Andrea es trapito

    10:00 theme?

  • Mryeboi
    Mryeboi

    any one just get hit really hard on the personal level when he said “who the hell do you think i am”

  • HarmonyLife
    HarmonyLife

    NGE to me is perfect

  • mojopeach
    mojopeach

    i sat down last month and watched the first season of Evangelion and honestly it was both great and really weird

  • Rogue Lavellan
    Rogue Lavellan

    Oversaturation...

  • SEAN DIEGO
    SEAN DIEGO

    Violet Evergarden is definitely a Modern Classic!

  • the killer sandvich
    the killer sandvich

    to me carol and tuesday is a classic

  • SuckMan
    SuckMan

    I don't like the way classic anime looks.

    • ROJHAE THOMAS
      ROJHAE THOMAS

      This kid smh...

  • ragejinraver
    ragejinraver

    Anime has become beyond oversaturated with the same character cardboard cut outs . And the same tropes it lost its X factor it once had .

  • kaitou boy
    kaitou boy

    I think attack on titan,Steins gate,death note and code geass are modern classic

  • nikhil girish
    nikhil girish

    I would say the monogatari series is a classic, the depth was too good, I would even consider to be better than most of Shakespeare's work

    • Roger Touma
      Roger Touma

      bro i just finished bakemonogatari, this show is amazing he can be a modern classic anime because the show is so unique, but i feel like the serie didn't have much impact, no one talk about this anime, this frustrate me so much

  • DJ_KOEN
    DJ_KOEN

    and i never watched code geass but with how much praise it gets and how much people talk about it, it seems to be a classic to the community and i perceive it as such as well.

  • Just a Vampire Gay with His Stand Power
    Just a Vampire Gay with His Stand Power

    JoJo's are Classic *Flamboyant Masculinity*

  • Random frostborn Gamer
    Random frostborn Gamer

    You cant stop me Im gonna say it Gibli studio have the best anime

  • DJ_KOEN
    DJ_KOEN

    i think the most important aspect of why modern shows arent considered classics by the general community is because there is so much division within the general community nowadays, the community has grown and expanded significantly it is no longer as much of small niche subculture as it once was nowadays so many people all who have their own opinions exist, but most importantly there is very little connection within the fanbase and naturally that results in the proclusion of a shared opinion or concensus of which anime are classics i hope this makes some sense to some people, you can tell me if im totally wrong about things

  • DJ_KOEN
    DJ_KOEN

    i have never cared for seasonal anime, only recently actually checking what is airing at the moment, i watch almost everything after it has already been released, and some shows i accidentally picked up when they were wrapping up in their respective season. to me looking back to what has been made before is what it means to watch anything really, when you want to find the good stuff you have to dig and explore, there is so much out there the only problem is that you dont know about it. i still discover new things that go all the way back to the previous decade, movies from the previous millennium and thats how you are supposed to approach it, why limit yourself to what is currently being released? there is plenty of anime that i didnt watch when they were aired only to watch them long after the hype died i watched re:zero last summer, i watched kaguya in april before i even knew a second season was coming this spring i watched one punch man the winter before last and ended up reading the manga, i discovered paranoia agent last winter, i watched 91 days less than a month ago i watched night is short walk on girl a few weeks ago, not knowing when it was released and many more me and a friend decided last summer to watch legend of the glactic heroes, and we still havent finished that show. this was a bit rambly for my tastes but i implore you all to dig around and im sure that when you expand your horizons something lies beyond, waiting to be discovered, because discovering something is part of the joy for me.

  • Escanor Lion sin of pride
    Escanor Lion sin of pride

    clannad any one

  • Anime Yahallo Studio
    Anime Yahallo Studio

    "That time I watched classic animes and it can't be this cute"

  • Slickweeb G59
    Slickweeb G59

    I'm here after he said attack on Titan could be a modern classic after season 4 releases on him and The anime man's podcast

  • Bobby Tedora
    Bobby Tedora

    Love how when you’re describing the character creation at the start you are instantly playing with the breast slider 😂

  • ygw _inpeace
    ygw _inpeace

    Get In f*cking robot you p*ssy

    • ygw _inpeace
      ygw _inpeace

      Who knows what that’s from

  • Blurryink
    Blurryink

    the fact Aot is still relevant after being on hiatus for 4 years after season one really says a lot. Man I love that show

  • sebastianwillows
    sebastianwillows

    Mob psycho, and AoT are totally classics imho. Megalobox also comes close

  • A7MD224
    A7MD224

    Honestly after watching LOGH, it is hard to see a series better than it. And yes It’s my favorite series of all time!

  • Steve Mankidy
    Steve Mankidy

    the fact there are seasons is what makes modern classic animes not classics.

  • Thort
    Thort

    So basecally he has watched legend of the Galactic heros, and thats it

  • Amine Zaaza
    Amine Zaaza

    Devilman is a classic

  • alvo damdam
    alvo damdam

    whats the name of the song at 2:46 ?

  • AyBruhHam AyBruhHam
    AyBruhHam AyBruhHam

    WHAT IS THE SONG THAT STARTS AT 4:23?? I can't remember which anime its from but its giving me intense nostalgia. Someone please help I NEED to know

  • Skits & Schist
    Skits & Schist

    I'm not a weeb so a classic is whatever anime I actually know the name of

  • 42nd sheep
    42nd sheep

    I feel like this is related to the question of why there is no new Albert Einstein, which is that people can make extremely significant discoveries and major progress, but so many people are doing that at once now that they don't stand out. The thing that makes a classic a classic was the opportunity it had to be revolutionary in an era with few revolutions. A modern anime can be as revolutionary but it will be covered up by both the less good anime and the other revolutionary anime that are coming out at a similar time, meaning it doesn't get the time it needs to gain traction in order to become a "classic".

  • Arden Winter
    Arden Winter

    Can you please make a list of classical anime

  • ThatRascallyRabbit
    ThatRascallyRabbit

    First the love of all things holy can someone please tell me what sing in I'm the back ground around the 4 minute mark

  • Lexort 420
    Lexort 420

    SAO IS A CLASSIC

  • Thomas Murphy
    Thomas Murphy

    I think if demon slayer stays on the same bar season one was itll be a classic

  • Samuele ieremie
    Samuele ieremie

    I hate MECHA

  • mak sens
    mak sens

    Uh jojo

  • Alyssin Williams
    Alyssin Williams

    Yagate Kimi ni Naru will go down as a classic in the yuri genre, and probably in the romance category. Domestic na Kanojo as a classic in the melodrama (aka dumpster-fire) category, probably along with the equally as melodramatic Citrus

  • Suissie
    Suissie

    Anime has gotten worse, stop lying to yourself

  • pyro226
    pyro226

    Modern anime has evolved to the point where most of the "classics" are not relevant. I've seen Evangelion, Apple Seed, Bubblegum Crisis, Akira, Trigun, and more. They're all garbage by today's standards. Dragonball was good, if not for the pacing issues. I'd say better watching are the anime around the time of the modernization of anime. Shows like FMA, Hellsing, Gurren Lagan, etc. Even within that grouping, there are a lot that aren't worth watching (Haruhi, Lucky Star, K-On, anything that pushes Moe over substance).

  • pyro226
    pyro226

    Umm, what? The original Mob Psycho was far superior to Mob Psycho II.

  • Naruto Ali
    Naruto Ali

    soundtrack name please

  • Epic Happy
    Epic Happy

    We all forgot the real classic anime-Boku no Pico

  • Rishitas
    Rishitas

    AOT S4.

  • PlatypusPrince
    PlatypusPrince

    "Watch the classics" said by the guy who hasn't even see fmab yet

  • Night Raid
    Night Raid

    Gurren lagann music in the background

  • SpicyTrash
    SpicyTrash

    Is JoJo a classic I love it tho

  • Darth Backstabber
    Darth Backstabber

    2:34 Your voice is nice, but could you please just shut up for once and let me listen to Bratja for the 25278152th time?

  • Epoch
    Epoch

    Attack on Titan and JoJo’s (idk if you would count JoJo’s since it is still running)

  • Epoch
    Epoch

    I had to click because of chika cat ears

  • Raseen Pro
    Raseen Pro

    Came here to see asuka turn into chika somehow

  • han dler
    han dler

    SOA not only a classic but trend setter. Facts > your feelings.

  • Jo John
    Jo John

    I think it has to with experimentation and mainstream commercial performance. Early animations had to start from a base with only design and explore through different stories and ideas with great mind of experimentation. Hence i saw many animes with great qualities and some with even very grimy, and depressing stories. They make the foundation. However, as time goes on, they became a strong base for other animes to construct their own buildings. Since they came from same designs, the plot seems cliche and typical. We dont get that vibe we got from classical anime anymore. Also some qualities are not really considered because of the need to appeal to wider audience.

  • j dragoon
    j dragoon

    Video went way way way too long. Could of summed up your point in under 5 minutes cuz mostly you ramble on about the same thing.

  • Julienard Marie Deloso
    Julienard Marie Deloso

    Wait wait wait. The inclusion of Banana Fish in this vid... you're telling me it's a good (great?) anime right? right? It's so underrated, i feel like nobody understands my love for it.

  • Ethan Johnson
    Ethan Johnson

    One punch man would’ve been a modern classic. If not for season 2

  • Andre Ribeiro
    Andre Ribeiro

    Really liked the 3 points you elected and how you ilustrated and produced the video. Well said.

  • Jhamel Hasad
    Jhamel Hasad

    The Pioneer of Truck-sama is about to get an anime adaption, lets see if it turns into "classic" ehh

  • alvarito34.coc
    alvarito34.coc

    u should watch great teacher onizukq

  • QuesoCookies
    QuesoCookies

    Anime, like all other forms of art, is subject to the tension between artistic merit and profitability. When it was younger and everything was fresh and not many people were producing it, there was room for artistic expression and novelty to coexist with profitability due to a lack of competition. But we've reached the point where everything there is to do has been done and everyone and their dog is barrelling through all possible combinations as fast as they can. While it'd be disingenuous to say there is no genuine heart and artistic expression in what's being produced today, I think it's naive to think that projects that might have become classics at another time failed either by being dead on arrival by lack of investment for not being deemed popular or profitable enough; not having enough for animation quality on the necessary, breakneck timescale; or just insufficient advertising or missed the mark by being overly concerned with profitability characteristics such as being in popular genres or over-emphasis on fanservice, insufficient time to polish the writing, or just simply lacking a single, central creator's voice, artistic expression, and passion. I think it will require the popularity of anime to crash and burn before we see the necessary conditions for classics to be created again. Right now, there's just too much content and too much money involved.

  • Brazen Hammer
    Brazen Hammer

    Old anime has more work into it

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